Michael & Lucifer VS Beyonder & Molecule Man

Kinda does since Michael is the embodiment of the Demiurgic power so he is basically the power of the presence itself.

Beyonder wrote:Kinda does since Michael is the embodiment of the Demiurgic power so he is basically the power of the presence itself.

....Not really, especially since he needs lucifer to use his powers for anything other than destruction.

emperorofliberty wrote:

Beyonder wrote:Kinda does since Michael is the embodiment of the Demiurgic power so he is basically the power of the presence itself.

....Not really, especially since he needs lucifer to use his powers for anything other than destruction.

That doesnt really debunk his omnipotence as it even stated he can create/destroy the presence made Lucifer/Michael as a set to the other.

Lucifer is the who needs michael to create its lucifer who shapes the will into shape.

How does that make them omnipotent in the first place?

emperorofliberty wrote:How does that make them omnipotent in the first place?

Michael is the only one who wields infinite power but doesnt use it without Lucifer.

Lucifer doesnt want anything to do with creation and so Michael just guards his father gates.

Not omnipotent though

Still is since God stated himself that Michael power has no shore lol basically Infinite Power which is basically Omnipotence.

Not "basically omnipotence". Omnipotence is the ability to do literally anything, a title held by little in fiction.

emperorofliberty wrote:Not "basically omnipotence". Omnipotence is the ability to do literally anything, a title held by little in fiction.

Omnipotence isnt a title.....a title would be "God" but a rank of a God omnipotence "doesnt" follow unless proven.

I can ask his writer this and if he replies ill show you.

K

I am not saying this because Mr.B is my buddy.But lets get real here,pre-retcon beyonder could give the one ABOVE ALL SOME REAL PROBLEMS!

galactus1967 wrote:I am not saying this because Mr.B is my buddy.But lets get real here,pre-retcon beyonder could give the one ABOVE ALL SOME REAL PROBLEMS!

Troll the whole omniverse lol.

is this new molecule man with the race of the beyonders power even on the level of pre-retcon beyonder?I would have to say no if Beyonder is billions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.

galactus1967 wrote:is this new molecule man with the race of the beyonders power even on the level of pre-retcon beyonder?I would have to say no if Beyonder is billions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.

The Beyonders and Pre-Retcon Beyonder are both Omniverse but with feats PR Beyonder solos.