Bambina (Toriko) Vs Goku (Dragon Ball Z)

Beyonder wrote:2. Alright if you say so.

3. Goku can't bust though or destroy 10 planets without hitting the actual core of the planets as confirmed in the new movie where they HAVE TO hit the planet core to cause its destruction and also how do you know 100 G is the same? I mean different verses different scientific research and evidence and also no Beerus and Goku fought near the atmosphere lol and also a Single punch from Bambina would end a planet on DBZ specially earth also Goku has 0 FTL feats and Bambina does lol  Instant movement? Instant Transmission isnt speed  and speed,power, and durability goes to Bambina actually show me feats similar from what Bambina did close to what Goku has ever done ill wait because the feats Bambina showed curb stomps anything Goku has shown.

I showed you some FTL Goku feats earlier, you're just denying them for some reason. Goku can destroy planets. Even first form Freeza could. Goku has not done so because that's not his character. Goku tries to save everyone but defeat the bad guy. 100g is 100g, doesn't matter what verse it's in. Instant transmission is speed. It allows him to move instantly to an area. That's speed. Bambina wasn't in space either. The only feats Bambina has better than Goku is lifting strength. You actually need to give me feats that are better than Goku's. I've read every issue with Bambina in it, I already know he doesn't have feats that match Goku's.

Which you admit being inconsistent right? Meaning it isnt actually accurate with what's been shown proving No FTL. That excuse "First form frieza did this." Wanna hear something logical DIFFERENT CHARACTER with DIFFERENT ABILITIES you do realize that logic right? And also you claiming he is planet level and then claiming he wont because that's his character is a excuse to the reason why and how he cant which proves me right that he cant planet bust and you forget the comment I made where they have to hit the planet core to cause the destruction did you forget that? It seems 100 isnt the same because I don't see Goku doing the feats Bambina has shown also if teleportation is speed then I guess Sasuke Uchiha is FTL because of his new technique which is stated to be Instantaneous teleportation and if you now claim to read every issue with Bambina? You do realize those forms wasn't in his final and here ill explain the feats given by Bambina.

Strength:
Bambina was able to pick up a mountain 4x bigger than himself and threw it around the world and within a week it turns into a pebble.

Speed/Striking Power+Speed:
Bambina can entire space with pure leg muscles which a feat Goku doesn't have because he use external power *cough* Ki and with a single Tail SWING he caused the top of the mountain to be SLICED on half while also cutting a small asteroid and a satellite within seconds. With nearly 9 Trillion Cells in his body he was able to fully CRACK a continent which is estimated to be the size of a PLANET by regional SIZE.

Durability:
He has lived on a mountain which its 100 G and has 0 Oxygen which by this he can survive in space purely as he sat a on milky way dust cloud.

You saying I deny stuff yet you deny the continent size being bigger than a regular earth wow that sounds very biased.

Beyonder wrote:Which you admit being inconsistent right? Meaning it isnt actually accurate with what's been shown proving No FTL. That excuse "First form frieza did this." Wanna here something logical DIFFERENT CHARACTER with DIFFERENT ABILITIES you do realize that logic right? And also you claiming he is planet level and then claiming he wont because that's his character is a excuse.....to the reason why and how he can which proves me right that he cant planet bust and you forget the comment I made where they have to hit the planet core to cause the destruction did you forget that? It seems 100 isnt the same because I don't see Goku doing the feats Bambina has shown also if teleportation is speed then I guess Sasuke Uchiha is FTL because if his new technique which is stated to be Instantaneous teleportation and you now claim to read every issue with Bambina? You do realize those forms wasn't in his final and here ill explain the feats given by Bambina.

Strength:
Bambina was able to pick up a mountain 4x bigger than himself and threw it around the world and within a week it turns into a pebble.

Speed/Striking Power+Speed:
Bambina can entire space with pure leg muscles which a feat Goku doesn't have because he use external power *cough* Ki and with a single Tail SWING he caused the top of the mountain to be SLICED on half while also cutting a small asteroid and a satellite within seconds. With nearly 9 Trillion Cells in his body he was able to fully CRACK a continent which is estimated to be the size of a PLANET by regional SIZE.

Durability:
He has lived on a mountain which its 100 G and has 0 Oxygen which by this he can survive in space purely as he sat a on milky way dust cloud.

You saying I deny stuff yet you deny the continent size being bigger than a regular earth wow that sounds very biased.

Just admit Goku is FTL. I've already shown you and your argument is going nowhere. First form Freeza had a power level of 530,000. Goku is so far above that it's not even funny. The higher the power level the greater your capabilities. You know where this is going. About the character excuse... that's literally the reason why. Goku doesn't want to destroy planets. You should know this. Please show me where they have to hit the core of the planet to destroy it. I wasn't saying teleporting makes you FTL. It just gives Goku an extra advantage. You have no proof that the continent was the size of earth. You were saying the planet they were on is 2x the size of earth. The continent was not even close to half of the planet.

All you shown me was a feat alot of fictional characters have done and they aren't titled FTL or Light Speed....ill admit he isn't close to FTL or Light Speed as you states the inconsistency's....Power levels don't determine a characters strength even Akira admitted this and so Goku wont defeat Bambina basically? even if he did it wouldn't be enough to defeat him......really? I can literally give you the events......
Vegeta with Filler
Frieza with Planet Vegeta
Frieza with Namek
Majin Buu with Earth
Majin Buu in filler
Frieza with Earth (New movie)
So.....that will tell you the truth of the "Planet Busting"
So again teleportation isnt Speed thanks for proving me right.....
The continent was clearly bigger than earth.

Beyonder wrote:All you shown me was a feat alot of fictional characters have done and they aren't titled FTL or Light Speed....ill admit he isn't close to FTL or Light Speed as you states the inconsistency's....Power levels don't determine a characters strength even Akira admitted this and so Goku wont defeat Bambina basically? even if he did it wouldn't be enough to defeat him......really? I can literally give you the events......
Vegeta with Filler
Frieza with Planet Vegeta
Frieza with Namek
Majin Buu with Earth
Majin Buu in filler
Frieza with Earth (New movie)
So.....that will tell you the truth of the "Planet Busting"
So again teleportation isnt Speed thanks for proving me right.....
The continent was clearly bigger than earth.

A lot of fictional characters have outran light and have been faster than another FTL character and haven't been called FTL? I don't buy it. Power levels do determine the character's power. Show me proof that Akira said this. I don't know what you're saying when you were talking about Goku not beating Bambina. The continent was not bigger than earth. And still not as impressive as 10 earths.

Really?......so you agree Haku is FTL? You agree Naruto/Sasuke are FTL because the yin storm release Madara used in Rikudou mode wa stated to be FTL attack.

Even they read the interview

They even stated and agreed with akira that they are just random numbers.

As 10 earths? Yet goku hasn't done anything earth 10 planet feats lol.

Beyonder wrote:Really?......so you agree Haku is FTL? You agree Naruto/Sasuke are FTL because the yin storm release Madara used in Rikudou mode wa stated to be FTL attack.

Even they read the interview

They even stated and agreed with akira that they are just random numbers.

As 10 earths? Yet goku hasn't done anything earth 10 planet feats lol.

Why are you bringing up characters from other series?
Deathbattle is a joke. It proves nothing.
King Kai's planet = 10 earths. I'm not saying it again.

Yet they are examples to fit perfectly here.
Screw Attacks have done research......and it seems they actually know a few things like the Interview.
King Kai planet is density isnt worth a debate if goku can then I bet maaaaany characters cam do the same feat he did and also I don't see Goku doing the feat to Beerus or earth only proving me right because just striking BEERUS with that level of attack shouldn't have killed him but wait he didn't another inconsistency within DBZ.

Beyonder wrote:Yet they are examples to fit perfectly here.
Screw Attacks have done research......and it seems they actually know a few things like the Interview.
King Kai planet is density isnt worth a debate if goku can then I bet maaaaany characters cam do the same feat he did and also I don't see Goku doing the feat to Beerus or earth only proving me right because just striking BEERUS with that level of attack shouldn't have killed him but wait he didn't another inconsistency within DBZ.

"King Kai planet is density isnt worth a debate if goku can then I bet maaaaany characters cam do the same feat he did" I'm going to answer that with If Bambina can do it than I bet many other characters can do it.
I'm not going to debate about screwattack and you shouldn't use them as a source.
Goku was holding back while fighting Beerus until he started threatening the earth, at which point Goku was worn out from fighting.

Yet he didn't win?.....
Goku hasn't and wouldn't planet bust right?.....so why is him planet busting even mentioned Im pretty sure Bambina would 1 shot Goku the moment Goku touch him.


Strength=Bambina
Striking Speed=Bambina
Striking Power=Bambina
Speed=Bambina
DC=Bambina

What does goku have??

Beyonder wrote:Yet he didn't win?.....
Goku hasn't and wouldn't planet bust right?.....so why is him planet busting even mentioned Im pretty sure Bambina would 1 shot Goku the moment Goku touch him.


Strength=Bambina
Striking Speed=Bambina
Striking Power=Bambina
Speed=Bambina
DC=Bambina

What does goku have??

Stength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Goku
Striking power: Goku
Speed: Goku
DC: Goku

Goku fought Vegeta in the span of under a heartbeat. Then he proceeded to overpower a planet busting attack.

Over power a hyped up blast which has to touch the planets core lol yeeeah such a feat most other characters have done before.

Also.....no
Strength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Bambina
Striking power: Bambina
Speed: Bambina
DC: Bambina

Until you post actual scans to prove you are right because right now Bambina has the complete category.

Beyonder wrote:Over power a hyped up blast which has to touch the planets core lol yeeeah such a feat most other characters have done before.

Also.....no
Strength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Bambina
Striking power: Bambina
Speed: Bambina
DC: Bambina

Until you post actual scans to prove you are right because right now Bambina has the complete category.

You're still going with "They have to hit the core of the planet?" You have no proof to back that up.

I've already showed you scans of his speed, you haven't. Bambina's best speed feat is near lightspeed.

So it still goes like

Strength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Goku
Striking power: Goku
Speed: Goku
DC: Goku

I actually gave you the many fights where its the truth you are just denying the facts.

So Bambina is near? But GOKU is and or above? Someone is biased.
Overall Bambina wins until you actually post facts than personal based opinions without proof.

Strength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Bambina
Striking power: Bambina
Speed: Bambina
DC: Bambina

Beyonder wrote:I actually gave you the many fights where its the truth you are just denying the facts.

So Bambina is near? But GOKU is and or above? Someone is biased.
Overall Bambina wins until you actually post facts then opinions without proof.

Strength: Bambina
Striking Speed: Bambina
Striking power: Bambina
Speed: Bambina
DC: Bambina

Bambina's best speed feat



I've already shown you Goku's FTL feats. You have not shown me any feats that are above Goku's. Bambina's only advantage is strength.

Lol
The scans you posted isnt Light speed or FTL for Goku.

I showed you scans that make goku looks like a child compared to Bambina

Higher DC
Higher Speed
Higher Strength
Higher Durability

Nothin you posted or stated is proof but your personal opinion which again isnt a fact and you admitted the feats are inconsistent meaning he isn't Light speed or Faster than light.

Beyonder wrote:Lol
The scans you posted isnt Light speed or FTL for Goku.

I showed you scans that make goku looks like a child compared to Bambina

Higher DC
Higher Speed
Higher Strength
Higher Durability

Nothin you posted or stated is proof but your personal opinion which again isnt a fact and you admitted the feats are inconsistent meaning he isn't Light speed or Faster than light.

Do you really not remember the two FTL scans I showed you? I hope you realize Goku has a much higher DC than Broly, who can easily destroy planets. Even Saiyan Saga Vegeta was a planet buster, as was Goku. I've shown you Goku's higher striking speed and power and speed. Every character in DBZ casually punch each other through mountains and are not even scratched. Saiyan Saga Vegeta survived a planet busting attack. Goku is much more durable than Vegeta. A weakened Freeza survived a planet exploding. Trunks cut Freeza in half with his sword. Goku's finger alone easily stopped the sword. There's durability for you.

Also explain to me how those feats i showed aren't FTL

Vegeta filler isnt canon.....
Broly isnt canon.....
You also helped proved more inconsistencies of dbz.


I dont see akira confirming anything like it.....
It isnt FTL feats......

Beyonder wrote:Vegeta filler isnt canon.....
Broly isnt canon.....
You also helped proved more inconsistencies of dbz.


I dont see akira confirming anything like it.....
It isnt FTL feats......

I didn't use anything from filler. No shit Broly isn't canon. That doesn't change the fact that Goku is way more powerful than him.

If those aren't FTL feats than Bambina doesn't have any near lightspeed feats.

Vegeta planet busted out of filler lol any dbz fan would know that.
Yet Broly died by pure plot 3 times.
K never claimed he did but he is faster than goku and much more powerful.

Beyonder wrote:Vegeta planet busted out of filler lol any dbz fan would know that.
Yet Broly died by pure plot 3 times.
K never claimed he did but he is faster than goku and much more powerful.

Saiyan Saga Vegeta isn't filler. Goku overpowered a planet busting attack from Vegeta.

Goku is much more powerful than Broly, doesn't matter how Broly died.

Goku has multiple FTL feats. Bambina has one near light speed feat.

Vegeta yes......him blowing up a bug planet is filler.
Can you show me vegeta using that attack to bust a planet?......wait that doesn't exist because he never did it.

It kinda does not plotted Broly would solo DBZ.

Goku has 0 FTL or light speed feats seriously.

I;m not talking about filler... I've already told you that I'm talking about when Goku and Vegeta fought.

Broly would solo DBZ? I'm officially done arguing with you.

I've shown you multiple FTL feats already. I'm done debating.

But yet I didn't see anything planet level but hype......and Vegeta would still had to hit the planets core regardless.

Dont care its a fact
Broly with no plot>>>>>DBZ

Those aren't FTL feats not even close.